This is easy???? :( You and I could follow this, but, for most users, I think Debian would be much easier.

I second that. There is infinitely more than enough blame to go around, but both entities share the blame for this one.

Time is what life is made out of. Whatever wastes people's time wastes some part of their lives.

It's the standard way of sending a message to the people bright enough to know that immune systems can be tampered with while leaving little evidence beyond, while still maintaining plausible deniability to the masses who generally do not understand that.

The Clinton crime family elevated this type of killing to an art form.

A couple decades ago we'd have said "Fosterized." After Vince Foster, who died holding a gun, but was shot in the back of the head several times with a different gun, while holding a "suicide note" written in somebody else's handwriting, yet somehow managed to roll himself into a carpet, then drag himself, blood trail and all, into a different part of the city. He was a former lover, business associate, and someone who simply knew too much about the Clinton crime family. But all of this of course was coincidence. I'm sure the Clintons were not involved in any way.

I also knew a guy who was said to have been murdered by Karl Rove, after threatening to testify about his role in attempted election fraud. I knew the guy personally, and he was no saint, but he had a really nice side too. He was absolutely adored by his family, and did occasional mission trips in South America.

Used to love doing this in random Radio Shack stores that were trying to sell some version of a TRS-80.

Only I was very young at the time, so "HELLO" might have been replaced with something slightly less polite.

Yep. I use Gentoo also, with OpenRC. But still managed to get a recent X11 crash from apparently from one xscreensaver-systemd, which I don't remember installing and certainly never asked for. And, not that I'd want to anyway, but I can't run GNOME, Snapd, and probably not most Flatpaks. (I do have a couple things installed via AppImages which don't require systemd.) One of the worst "features" of systemd is that it slowly sneaks its way into lots of things that have NOTHING to do with replacing initd, managing cgroups, or anything else. It becomes a part of one's life whether one wants it to be or not.

I don't disagree with any of the above. But I also don't trust Mr. Poettering. Even when he has good ideas - which he does - he typically implements them in ways inconsistent with time-tested principles of sound software design.

Some of us "bellyaching greaybeard retards" do not so much as "refuse to ever learn anything new," but rather refuse to UN-learn the lessons taught to use by decades of experience.

And some of us continue to steer clear of systemd, not because we don't understand it, but because we do, and also have enough historical knowledge to know exactly where it is going to lead.

Now all you systemd-lovers can git off my lawn.

I don't "hate Lennart" and I certainly don't deny that he has great ideas from time to time. The problem is that he appears to have no understanding or respect for some of the core, time-tested principles of software design, nor any willingness to learn

Agreed. Government's maximum role in a free society is to protect life, liberty, and property. And I do not trust it to do any of the above.

When and if they improve enough to be equivalent to or better than ICEs, people will buy them willingly. Why try to force people to do so sooner?

It's not progress that free people oppose. It is the initiation of force and/or fraud.

More to the point, it's unsustainable to just let anyone do anything just because they want to.

That's called freedom, and there are a lot of us who will fight to keep what little is left of it.

Compared to the cars of decades past, today's already don't pollute at all, much less pollute "freely."

This is what my home city of Cleveland, Ohio used to look like. Some of this was industrial pollution. But a lot of it was cars.

We did a decent job of making ICE technology both more efficient and also more environmentally friendly. Gradually safer and more affordable as well.

But now our reward, according to some folks, is to have this technology rapidly phased out, before its replacement becomes affordable to anyone except the upper-middle class and rich.

Not gonna happen without a fight.

Almost no one is making music in the Baroque style anymore (think of Bach, Vivaldi, Handel, etc.) I dabbled in composing when I was younger, and I could imitate that style, but only badly.